Moist is an opportunist who hates inactivity so much, by the second book he is breaking into his own office just to entertain himself. He starts out by selling a horse, then uses that money to buy a better one, and keeps trading up until he can afford bonds. From there, he moves into cheating people in various ways out of their money, excusing his behavior by refusing to think about the broader implications and consequences of his actions (he pays no mind on the impact of this until he sees it in person). Once Lord Vetinari forces him to take over the post office, Moist latches onto new ideas about how to run the place. He innovates stamps (the notion of trading cash for a way to avoid physical manual labor) and sells the idea of a competition, of the daily post, etc., with having no real awareness of how to implement any of that. Moist feels totally overwhelmed by the backlog of letters in the post office, but shows no interest in actually delivering them himself, unless it involves carrying a package to the love of his life. Once he becomes aware of how his actions hurt her, he is haunted by his past mistakes.
After Adora’s father loses his business, and her brother dies tending the Clacks, she methodically uses a process of elimination to figure out how to jam the Clacks, so she can sabotage the man responsible for ruining her family. She spends the rest of her time attempting to organize the Golems and advocate for their welfare. Adora sees Moist as “exploiting” and manipulating them, and will not stand for it. She is plainspoken, a woman of direct action who does not like Moist’s attempts to talk himself out of hot spots. That strikes her as refusing to take personal responsibility for his actions. She is an effective organizer of the outside world, collecting people and assigning them responsibilities, in her determination to bring down the villain. She is pleased by the end of the book to have her hands on the Clacks, and already has new ideas about implementing superior methods and turning a profit. (Moist teasingly says he’d love to get his hands on her “assets” and talk about a “merger,” but she is somewhat skeptical of the idea. She has no intention of yielding her power.)
Merricat is a detached believer in her own form of logic, which she has constructed based on her own understanding of the world, its threats, and what she knows of superstitions and pagan belief systems. She comforts herself by burying talismans around the house and in the woods, sometimes to excess, in order to keep her and her sister “safe” from the townspeople who regard them with distrust due to their eccentricities. Her detachment and fascination with these things led her to commit a crime in her childhood. Her inferior Fe shows in her persistent resistance toward conformity and her intense emotions under stress. She becomes reactive, defiant, and even causes others emotional turmoil; she expresses her fears openly and can escalate into hysterics.
Ki-jeong’s brother, Ki-woo, remarks that she’s the sole member of their family truly suited to the lifestyle of the rich. As the Kims savor the amenities of the Parks’ opulent mansion, he notes that Ki-jeong does so with an ease that the rest of them don’t, as if she’s had access to such luxury all her life. Ki-jeong lives immersed in the moment; this quality makes her a consummate “actress.” She’s been paid to act as a guest in weddings, wherein she would catch the bouquet of “some bitch” she’d never even met. Unfortunately, dire socioeconomic circumstances soon lead her down a path less like acting and more like actual fraud. But she’s damn good at it, with her family remarking that she’d certainly be accepted right away if a university for con artists existed. She has a keen visual eye; although she’s not depicted as a particularly artistic person, she uses her combination of graphic design skills and book smarts to forge extremely high-quality documents.
Her inferior Ni is underdeveloped and under-utilized, but present — even strong. Although she’s reliant on her other functions and negligent towards her Ni, she is notably the one character who intuitively picks up on the deeply unpleasant side lurking beneath housekeeper Moon-gwang’s facade of a perfectly nice, dutiful, motherly figure. She never follows up on it, however, allowing the blood-soaked, tragic latter half of the movie to occur. (Not that it was really her fault, or just her fault.) Ki-jeong is highly intelligent, but her overall short-sightedness causes a lot of problems for her. While discussing their dreams for their future, she can’t even bring herself to imagine what her dream future would be like; she’d rather just be there when she gets there.
She doesn’t exhibit much in the way of personal conviction. She’s loyal to her family, because she’s with them, and doesn’t want to get caught… but for the ethical/emotional side of things, that’s pretty much it. Of course, she absolutely feels emotions, but they’re not guided by any solid or fixed internal code. Her principle of living in the moment is ever applicable to her Feeling function; when she feels things, she feels them in the here-and-now, in accordance with what’s going on around her. When the Kims reach one of their lowest, most desperate points in the movie, she does not look inside herself for her ethical/emotional assessment of the situation. She merely laments that Min, their responsible and socially respectable family friend, would not have gotten himself entangled in this folly; it’s a wholly external frame of reference for ethics.
Ki-jeong surprises Ki-woo by moving on to the next stage of their incremental plan so quickly, but her confidence is well-founded. Although she hasn’t finished her education, and her knowledge of “art therapy” has been acquired through cursory Googling, her formidable high Ti helps her be genuinely competent at her new job. She endears herself to her little “patient” Da-song and has a positive effect on the kid. Throughout the movie, she cleverly uses her physicality and body, in non-sexual and non-athletic ways, to take advantage of time-sensitive opportunities to advance her goals/pull herself out of problematic situations. Even while grievously injured, her instinctive response is not sentimentality; she just matter-of-factly says it hurts, and keeps on telling her understandably distressed parents to stop touching her (extreme, severe) injury because that makes it worse.
note: I tried to make this as un-spoiler-y as I could, especially because I know some countries are still months away from the film’s local premiere, and it’s hot property (being one of, if not the, best-reviewed features of 2019 anywhere). But this has premiered in other territories for months now, and Ki-jeong struck me as a very pronounced ESTP. I’m not quite certain about the other characters.
Te rationally organizes sense impressions by recognizing stable, recurring ones, so the ETJ can define and focus on them as distinct objects and events. It notices the qualities objects have in common, and uses them as a standard of sequential order. It focuses on the fixed sequence of events and assumes the same thing will occur when applied to a new object or situation. It recognizes that certain principles of order are “always true.”
Constance is trapped in a prison of her own making; she has stayed in the same place so long, cultivating her fears of the outside world and indulging her inability to leave the house that she cannot imagine a different life. She consoles herself through the same meticulous chores each day, from cooking and cleaning to taking care of her sister, and does not notice that the outside world has changed and moved on without her participation or acknowledgment. Constance does not like any changes or disruptions, but at the same time welcomes Charles’ arrival, because he can fix things about the house and bring a sense of needed stability. Or so she thinks. Her inferior Ne underestimates his intentions and refuses to deal with them; she also harbors a fear of any sincere change, seeing it as a threat to her sense of stability.
Arnold Perlstein is the most timid of Ms Frizzle’s students and the least enthusiastic for her wild field trips due to them being dangerous and scary, often quoting “I knew I should have stayed home today.” (or some varied version of this quote) as a result. Despite this, Arnold is very fond of his teacher, Ms Frizzle, even if he isn’t the most open about it. His loyalty to her is very clear when he stands up to his arrogant cousin, Janet in Lost in Space after she mocks her for being unprepared for a seemingly failed field trip to the planetarium, and then tries to say how much better her teacher is than Ms Frizzle, to which Arnold retaliates “Nobody, is better than Ms Frizzle.” and even gets Ms Frizzle to stop the bus and asks her whether she can take them to a bigger planetarium (outer space) when Janet tells him to “Prove it!” (Fi-Te). He further proves his loyalty to her when he stands in as her defense attorney after Keesha accuses Ms Frizzle of stealing her cucumber and turning it into a pickle. He even takes his job a bit too seriously as a result. (In a Pickle)
Arnold never tries to force his opinions on others, nor does he let other people change his opinions. He is generally a kind and good-hearted boy who always tries to do the right thing by his friends. He takes it rather hard when he feels he’s let them down. Generally he doesn’t talk much about his feelings even when they obviously run deep, such as when he mentions that he can’t go along to “The Nutcracker” ballet with his best friend, Wanda and the class because he has to catch a train with his dad to see his sick grandma, who is currently being looked after by his mum. He could have mentioned how worried he is about his grandma, or how disappointed he is that he has to spend the first day of Hanukkah on a train instead of going to “The Nutcracker” with his friends, but he simply states the facts and when his friends express concern over his grandma, and him having to spend Hanukkah on a train, he states simply “That’s just the way it is.” (Fi)
Arnold does feel the need to be prepared as shown in All Dried Up where for the first time he’s willing to go on the field trip to the desert because he’s prepared for it, e.g. a whole bag full of “essentials” like a survival guide, water canteens, and food like Mallow Blasters in a huge camping back-pack. He’s a responsible student, feeling the need to prioritise writing school reports over going to “Waterland” (originally believed to be the waterpark, but is actually the original water-cycle) in the episode Wet All Over (Te).
Unfortunately despite his attempts to be organised, it’s not exactly his strong suit and often leads to clumsy and not well-thought out consequences. The most infamous example being when he accidentally leaves the tap on in the girls’ bathroom after a girl he likes, Tiffany, catches him in there and gets the wrong idea (he was actually collecting water for his and Wanda’s waterworks project). He leaves behind Ms Frizzle’s key in the bathroom door after he runs out in embarrassment. As a result, he practically floods the entire school, and leaves the class stuck as water as the spare key was turned into water too. (inferior Te)
Most of Arnold’s actions are guided by his feelings, and while he’s usually cautious, he has had some more reckless moments as well, such as in “Gets Lost in Space”when he calmly fails to convince Janet to come back to earth and leave her pile of space proof behind. He decides to show her some tough love and prove to her what will happen if she stays behind with all her stuff by removing his space helmet and getting his whole head frozen as a result. (Fi-Te)
Despite Arnold’s nervous personality, he’s actually a pretty open-minded character who doesn’t find it too hard to improvise. In Shows and Tell he is supposed to bring his prized rock collection for Dorothy Ann to show on the live International Show and Tell competition and tell interesting anecdotes about them. Instead he brings an artifact (a colourfully webbed hoop) discovered by his famous archaeologist great-aunt, Arizona Joan, thinking that it’s “a real winner” because it holds a lot of significance to him (see Fi) and because of the many adventures his great-aunt had in discovering the artifact.
Though originally nervous, Arnold shows he’s pretty good with hypothesising on impulse, coming up with many hypotheses like a shield, a fishing net or even a celebratory hat, and then throwing them away when it becomes clear to him that they are not plausible. Through observing Liz throw an identically decorated and blunt arrow through the hoop as it rolls across the ground, he finally comes up with the hypothesis that it is actually a game of hoops and arrows, a similar game to a dart and arrow board. While he admits this is the most-likely guess, he knows this isn’t for sure. Hypothesising and improvising on stage seem to come more easily to him compared to lower Ne, D.A who needs to be prepared before she can talk about the artifact on stage.
Ironically, most of Arnold’s questions result in field trips (much to his dismay), such as him wondering where the hot went in his hot cocoa in In the Artic. He shows his most innovative side in this episode where he takes charge and comes up with inventive new ways of getting his class and the bus warm again in the Arctic, such as exercise to warm the students up and building an igloo around the bus to trap in the heat. He uses this same principle later when he makes a special insulated tea-cosy to keep the heat in his hot cocoa mug. Though he could have used the more practical thermostat, he shows his more creative, personal style in the tea cosy. Either way, Arnold is pretty good at coming up with ideas when he puts his mind to it. (Ne)
Arnold is a guy who likes to stick to what he’s comfortable with and certainly knows what he likes. His biggest passion is rocks, which has led to him being the youngest member of the club, ‘Great Rock Admirers’ National Institute of Tectonics Experts or GRANITE for short. He also has a weakness for his favourite snack foods including infamous carrot-centred Sea Weedies that turn his skin orange in Goes Celluar.
He’s proud of his Jewish heritage and religion as shown by his celebration of Hanukkah in the The Holiday Special. His confidence in his great-aunt’s aritifact being a winner in Shows and Tell shows he not only values his family legacy, but also has a great respect for historical artifacts themselves. His respect for history and of course rocks was also shown in The Busasaurus where he risks everything to protect a dinosaur egg fossil (turned back into a real egg) and return it to the owner, Dr Skeladon. (Si)
A/N: For the longest time I actually considered ISFJ for Arnold due to thinking his anxious personality might be the work of a high Si and inferior Ne. Plus I could tell he’s a feeler. Still, after re-watching episodes like Shows and Tell, I felt pretty convinced he had higher Ne. @briarosabelle confirmed that she thought the same thing, as did @creativefictionlover . I’d like to thank them both for their help in confirming these typings.
At its fundamental core, Ni is about object distortion. Taking an intuitive, individualistic ‘perception’ away from the sensory object that has personal abstract meaning to the INJ. Ni draws the focus of the INJ to recognize and interpret what they take in. The material facts remain the same, but organizing them in a new conceptual pattern changes their meaning and offers new options for behavior.
As some of you may remember from earlier posts, we’ve been experiencing some technical difficulties with tumblr the technicians can’t figure out or fix. These include posts not uploading images, posts not saving mod changes to them (forcing us to make multiple attempts) and randomly assigning dates / times to things in the queue, causing multiple postings on any given day, despite us removing those settings numerous times on each post.
It happened again today, posting two posts consecutively and in so doing, almost wiping out our existing queue. Over the last few months, interest has diminished in contributions, leaving two of our moderators (myself and INTP) scrambling to come up with new typings on a daily basis and keep the queue stocked. This has been taxing and time-consuming, since INTP is dealing with classes and I have myriad other work and hobby-related responsibilities. Funky has increasingly eaten up my free time over the years. Various mods have come and gone. I’ve seen a drop in inquiries as well, which means dwindling interest in the format. Tumblr seems to be “dying” since its sale and increased regulations, and I am not the kind of person to stay on a ship until it sinks.
To put things simply… the still-active Funky moderators are retiring, and I am moving my typings to wordpress where I can at least deal with any technical difficulties. I will be posting new and revised / older character posts there, on an alternating basis, as well as fleshing out content for the “pages” on MBTI and Enneagram. I will not be accepting any submissions for that blog, since it’s going to feature all my own work.
I have been here for 8 years and in that time, have learned a lot. And I know if I keep doing this another 8 years, I will learn even more. But I cannot and will not do it on tumblr. I have enjoyed helping some of you find your type, introducing you to the Enneagram (which I am still learning, as a novice), and hopefully teaching you to identify and recognize aspects of yourself and others that need improvement, as well as to increase your ability to understand and relate to your loved ones. It has been fun to type characters, and I plan to keep doing it for as long as it holds my interest, but the new blog should give me more free time, since I won’t be scrambling to come up with a new character per day, while also trying to update the archives.
I am undecided on the level of interaction my new blog will have, in terms of question-asking; though part of me enjoys being “needed,” another part of me wants to feel free to pursue other interests. In the coming weeks, there will be new character posts over there (ranging from Arsenic & Old Lace to We Have Always Lived in a Castle, to adding The Crown’s new characters), and updated posts with added Enneagram information, such as Star Wars, and The Man in the High Castle. I will link posts here as they go live for awhile, as well as share links to the rest of the MBTI pages as I finish them, but you should bookmark and/or follow the blog itself for up-to-date content.
Thank you for 8 years of questions, likes, reblogs, discussion, debate, and support. I was going to wait to post this until after Christmas, but after today’s technical troubles, I think it’s time to move. I hope you come with me.
You helped type me as an INFJ recently (thank you so much) and we’re working on typing my teenage daughter. We know she’s on the Fi Te axis, but we’re stuck on the other axis, and wondered if you might be able to tell us which axis you see. [redacted] I’ve thought perhaps she was an ENFP based on her ability to see patterns and possibilities, her seeming difficulty with inferior Si, her ease with abstract conversations, and what looks like tertiary Te to me but she doesn’t relate much to the majority of ENFP characters… but then, she’s a 4w3 sp/sx as far as we can tell, so she might not relate to the standard sp blind ENFP stereotype. Growing up she was very fiercely dedicated to emulating characters like Eowyn and Mulan, and still does to some degree.
Can you see Se/Ni or Ne/Si in any of this? I know she greatly respects your opinion and writing, and we’re both grateful for any wisdom you might offer.
Your instincts are right. Everything you said about her is textbook ENP.
Relating to characters really doesn’t matter; “relating” is an emotional response and not a rational one. When you relate, it can be for a variety of reasons, all stemming from your sense of self and/or what you value… but that does not mean you are what you admire. She may admire ESFP characters, but her brain works with Ne/Si. It’s a glorious thing. She can celebrate it, and emulate any character she wants to. Tell her I don’t relate to 98% of ENFP characters either – because most of them are stereotypical and not remotely representative of an actual intuitive-dominant axis. ENFPs want to change the world through their IDEAS, they are not manic pixie dream girls or fun factories.
She also sounds like she has a strong 7 influence in her Enneagram type. :)
Is the absorption of knowledge to support itself from enneagram 5 something like Te (books, real data ..) or any kind of information like Ti, life itself? I don’t know if I can express my question. I’m stuck between 5 and 7 and I’m trying to better understand each of them.
I’m not sure I need to answer the first question, since the second is so easy to respond to. The 5 and 7 are really nothing alike.
The 7 tries things for a bit, gets bored when it comes time to do the hard stuff, and abandons the project, leaving a string of half-finished things behind them that as soon as they became unpleasant, they found something “fun” to do. Their entire focus is avoiding pain of any kind, and that includes: unpleasant emotions, arguments with loved ones, dealing with their negative feelings, being stuck in a 9-5 desk job, or worse yet, having to introspect and think about their less-than-awesome tendencies. 7s are generally good-natured.
The 5 is a ponderous, serious, often negative and/or fearful intense personality who can spend decades tediously thinking about the same thing and working through it, out of a deep desire to avoid interacting wit,h the outside world (which is scary, and intense, and too loud, and requires too much energy the 5 does not have, and which they feel unprepared to deal with). 5s are typically argumentative, since other people are fools. ;)
7s fear getting stuck in a painful situation. 5s fear not being able to “cope.”
Basically: 7 – wants as much stimulation and excitement as possible. The 5 – wants to avoid that as much as possible. The 7 hits hard times and leaves town. The 5 hits hard times and knew it was coming, because life is pain.
Most of the types love to learn and supplement their experience through books and life experience. The REASON the 5 hides away in it is fear of the outside world. They use “I don’t know enough yet” as an excuse not to engage with Real Life.
Speaking of low Si I would think that would apply to the Enneagram too and you find you relate too all or most of them. How do you eliminate the wrong ones?
Get an in-depth Enneagram book and read it. Introspect. And assume if you still relate to everything, you’re a 9 since… well, they relate to everything. ;)
Seriously, though, you shouldn’t feel that hot flush of shame over every single number’s hidden shame. You know your number, because it sucks to admit it. It feels like someone just peeked into your diary and then read it aloud to a room full of your friends. It nails your ass so hard to the wall, it makes you squirm to admit it. Any number you are proud of, or using to defend or excuse your behavior, either isn’t it or you’re 3/7/9-ishly putting a polish on it.
Hello charity. I hope you’re doing well this Thursday evening. This isn’t an ask really, this isn’t anything. I just wanted to express my frustration to someone. It’s been years and I’m still in the searching phase of mbti. I just want to settle on something. It’s fun seeing how each type could fit me but I feel like I want to move on to the next level which comes after knowing your type. I’m bored. You might suggest stuff that could help but I’ve done them all already. Nothing helped. It’s just so frustrating. Some people are so obvious and easy to type. I hate them :>
This is stereotypically an inferior Si problem. It suggests you’re a Ne-dom, which enables you to constantly switch perspectives without settling on the ‘right’ one. Your detachment from physical evidence to support or rule out certain types is because of inferior Si’s inability to produce said evidence. You are floating in a sea of abstract possibilities without an anchor or a paddle. See it for what it is: Ne, as the cause of your confusion. Name it, claim it, move forward knowing it, and you will start noticing what you are doing and why.
Tony is a detached and logical man, who has come up with a solution to his problem that he considers to be not only logical, but reasonable. His wife is having an affair. If she divorces him for her lover, he will be left without an income. So, he decides to kill her so he can inherit her money and live in luxury the rest of his life. Tony is excellent at problem-solving, in the spur of the moment, and in convincing her to listen to him and believe him. He constantly out-maneuvers the police, and comes up with reasons “why” they should not suspect him. His inferior Fe enjoys pulling one over on the police, manipulating and blackmailing an old friend, and playing with him first, but has no regard for his wife’s welfare or emotional state, or even her life. (He has sociopathic tendencies.)
Once realizing he could use a former schoolmate to enact the “perfect murder,” Tony collected as much information about him as he could, down to the smallest detail. He found ways to frame him, and force him to do what he wanted, then planned the murder also down to the tiniest possible detail, from where she would stand to answer the phone to what the murderer should do afterward. This was his Ni working from a Se perspective; but Tony really shines when forced to “adapt” at the last minute. The murder goes wrong—horribly. His wife survives. He quickly switches gears, gets her to believe him innocent, and starts playing the police. Tony opportunistically (and somewhat recklessly) leaves clues to implicate her in blackmail and murder! He almost succeeds, too, except he lives a little too much in the moment… and spends money he should not have. That gives him away.
Hogwarts House: Slytherin
House Traits: cunning, resourcefulness, and ambition.
Tony is scheming and manipulative. He preys on his wife’s emotional state and tricks the police into arresting her. He is quite content knowing he has landed her on death row. And he does it all to maintain the “standard of living to which I am accustomed,” a most self-serving goal.
Enneagram: 3w4 sp/so
Tony’s motive is money, so he can retain his extravagant lifestyle. He enjoys being a famous tennis player, and adapting to new situations as they arise. The idea of losing his status, and having to take on a mundane job to pay for his own way, does not appeal to him. So he turns to a ruthless way of getting what he wants, bumping off Margot so he can inherit her fortune. Tony is cool and collected in intense situations, easily able to adapt and to laugh off things that make him uncomfortable. He never pauses to consider his feelings, instead using them manipulatively to get Margot to listen to his advice. Once he has failed, even then he does not lose face, instead simply pouring himself a drink and offering the police one (if he’s going to jail, he may as well console himself and give in to it, 9 disintegration). His 4 wing is elitist and withdrawn, enjoys a sense of intellectual superiority to others, and has extravagant tastes.
Edison is a man with endless ideas about how to improve the world around him, who creates a business based around just that. He tends to obsess over one idea for awhile, such as electrical current, and neglect others in pursuit of that end. He is so busy engaging in a “get there first” desire to light up towns that others in the industry have to remind him that he could sell his gramophone for thousands of dollars. Edison focuses on the broader picture, finding it not a far leap from lighting up industries to using an electric chair. He tends to neglect details, and pay little attention to his personal life or to social expectations of behavior, leading to an initial insult that sets his competitor against him. Tesla finds it difficult to work in his environment, because it is so “disorganized.”
Haymitch won his games by outsmarting and outthinking many of his opponents, and as an older man, has developed a cynical view of the world. He knows what he expects from it, and for the most part, that’s what he gets—a bunch of Capital people preying on the other districts for their perverse amusement. Once he stops drinking long enough to give Katniss and Peeta advice, however, it is valuable, and based in low Fe instincts – “You have to make them LIKE you.” Why? So they will buy you stuff when you need it, and help keep you alive. He finds this an easy tactic to teach Peeta, who is a natural at it, but much harder with Katniss. He often makes rational decisions, at the cost of his feelings, such as agreeing to volunteer for Peeta if he is called (since he has a great chance of survival), but being unable to stop Peeta from volunteering for him.
Since we don’t see Haymitch in the games, it’s hard to identify his Se other than his motivational opportunism. When he sees Katniss and Peeta need help in the arena, he gets out there to drum up support and financial donations in order to ensure their survival. He tells them to keep some of their best moves under wraps, and use them to impress the donors. Haymitch has soaked his trauma in alcohol; even when the Tributes need him, he continues to recklessly self-medicate, because he can’t stand to train and then watch more of his “kids” get slaughtered. He urges them to think in the broader picture, and is sometimes more insightful than Katniss, in telling her what she represents to the districts and how valuable she is to the Rebellion.
Hogwarts House: Slytherin
House Traits: cunning, resourcefulness, and ambition.
Haymitch showed courage in the arena, and in his choice to join the Rebellion. He urges the kids to be “smart” but also “win.” He believes a wise approach is to manipulate the masses rooting for them to die, through Peeta drumming up sympathy for the colder, more emotionally withdrawn Katniss.
Enneagram: 5w6 sp/so
Haymitch carefully thinks through all his decisions when it comes to giving the kids advice, and in winning his own games. He is private, withdrawn, and emotionally detached—hard for Katniss to get to know, but also in some ways, more ruthlessly rational than she is (when she gets done crying for herself, she “does the math and remembers Peeta,” as Haymitch puts it). He does not make friends easily nor show much interest in doing so, and tries to remain distant from his Tributes – his 5 wants to be objective and avoid pain as much as possible. His 6 wing is cautious, suspicious, and distrustful, with ease in making contingency plans. As an sp/so, to protect himself in the arena (sp) he appealed to the masses and made them root for him (soc), so as to fulfill any sp needs.
How could an INTJ mistype as an INTP? I'm having difficulty deciding which I am, as I use far more Fi than Fe, and I'm not sure how exactly to delineate the difference between a well-developed, more structured Ti and a more eclectic, oddball Te.
Most of the types mistype as INTJ because they misunderstand the nature of subjective vs. objective logic. Te being informed by external evidence and facts and Ti being informed by logical consistency and “figuring it out while doing it.” You should read the ITP post I linked to a few days ago, and the IFP post (if you identify with Fi, FP is not off the table). The INJ post will be up soon.
Si perceives data by selectively packaging sensations and taking them with the ISJ in the form of facts they retain over time. It helps the ISJ reconcile new impressions with previously stored ones. ISJs are at the mercy of their immediate perceptions, but may not realize this. They are constantly absorbing new impressions, but are sorting through them one at a time, putting them in various “meaning” boxes” set up in their internal storage system.
Hi! I’m 18 and I used to think I was an ISFJ. Now, I’m not so sure.
I thought I was an ISFJ because my own sensory experiences are extremely important to me. I figured they were Si because they’re personalised sensory experiences. I don’t simply love certain foods; I seek them out as much as I can. I’m much fussier about being sensorily comfortable and pleased than a lot of other people I meet.
I figured I was a Fe-aux because morals are important to me, and from what I understood, the difference between Fe and Fi was that Fe dealt with objective morality. As in, “this is morally wrong, objectively.” I do relate to that description. I’m not super extraverted, but ISFJs are Introverted Function-doms, after all.
But now I’m back to wondering if I’m a different type. Namely, ENFP/ENTP.
I would say you’re an INFP in Ne development. Your focus is inside your head / on how you see and respond to situations and is not impersonal or impartial like a Ne-dom. Introverts live primarily inside their heads, and your tendency to fantasize seems like secondary Ne – Ne-doms are more about tapping into what is happening in the external world; they live and die on their desire to share world-changing ideas, not just entertain themselves. You appear to have decent Si. I see no TiFe. Have a look at the IFP post / link from a few days ago, you may resonate with it. I will have an ISJ post up for comparison shortly.
President Snow is a visionary who successfully manages to manipulate Katniss throughout the Hunger Games and subsequent war. He places her and Peeta together for the second Games, hoping to let them self-destruct, and agrees with Plutarch that they need to “destroy” the “image” of Katniss before they kill her. He captures Peeta and has him conditioned to react violently to her name, hoping he will kill Katniss behind the scenes in the Rebellion. He is not at all surprised when she assassinates President Snow, instead of him (he is seen “laughing”), since he has studied her character. He also sees through her and Peeta’s “love affair” for what it is (fake, and what prompted it, defiance against the Capital). He litters the battlefield with symbolic flowers, to frighten Katniss. Snow almost never shows any inferior Se, other than in his love of gardening and roses.
A successful president, Snow has managed to keep the Capital running, instate new laws and punishments, and bring about highly successful Games each year. He delegates and appoints the “smartest people in the industry” and punishes them with death (since they are now useless, having failed) when they disappoint him. But when Katniss becomes a problem, he wants to eliminate her immediately — until Plutarch convinces him that they can use her, and turn the audience against her, that they must dismantle her as a national hero before they bury her, or they will risk making her into a martyr. As an INFJ, Plutarch knows how to impact people’s emotions on a grand scale, something Snow lacks — so he leaves that to him, and focuses on shaking up and threatening Katniss instead. Snow has a deep and abiding love for his granddaughter, but shows very little concern or care for other people’s lives. He is ruthless and self-reliant.
Hogwarts House: Slytherin
House Traits: cunning, resourcefulness, and ambition.
Snow is a competent leader, but also undeniably ruthless, self-serving, and self-promoting. He somehow came into power, and holds that position through fear-mongering and cruelty. He deliberately sets out to play mind-games with Katniss, in order to weaken her resolve and bring down the Rebellion. He cunningly figures out their attempts to hack into the system are a rescue attempt, and uses that to his advantage, having planned for it in advance.
Enneagram: 5w6 so/sp
Snow is a calculating thinker, and highly able to separate basic human emotions from the ruthless decisions he makes. He is also an incredibly private, remote, and socially withdrawn man, who makes most of his appearances from inside his mansion or in his rose garden. He seems disinterested in taking part in the outside world, or in over-indulging along with the rest of the people in the Capital. He trusts his own conclusions and operates off them, to a successful degree. His 6 wing feels safest when connected to the outer world, through their collective fears of another uprising. He recruits and trusts his associates, whom he believes are equally ruthless. He also has a 6ish ability to spread fear among the people of the Capital, by twisting around Katniss into a Public Enemy. As an so/sp, Snow focuses on influencing public opinion and shaping it through social communication, then on carving out time for himself.