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This blog is the creative outlet of an INTJ - one part self-reflection, one part MBTI, and a dash of humor- and meme-flavored dressing to make the rest go down easy. Take everything I say with a grain of salt - even I do.

Question:

hey! could you type me? I have a decent idea of what I am, but I’ll try to describe myself so you can form your own opinion. I’d appreciate insight about functions I use and their order as well as the enneatypes in my tri and their order. btw, I’m nearly 22, and prob below average mental health. okay, so! I’m bored 99% of the time. I always want more interesting things. people are the most interesting. I’m not great at talking, so I often play sports where I can actively participate. 1/8

Answer:

ill-be-istj-if-no-one-else-is:

I’m v competitive, but don’t appreciate when people get mad at each other. I never get mad except at myself (not just in sports but all of life). my fav people are the v extroverted because they are the people who are most interesting, tho how interesting someone is depends a lot on the person as well as type. I’m definitely stereotypically extroverted in that talking to people and doing things with them is life! I project positivity outward, but I’m often not happy inside. 2/8                I love trying to understand other people (yay typo obsession!) I love everyone I’ve ever met, but especially people I understand better. I use my understanding of people to help others understand each other, as well as to love them better. I don’t really like to debate, both because it’s rarely interesting and because I do not like when people get mad, but I do have very strong convictions. I’m driven and good at organizing my time. 3/8           

I always procrastinate on school work, but I’ve never turned in an assignment late and always get As (I’m in college rn). I get frustrated by anything less than a perfect score, but not enough to make me not procrastinate. I like to surprise people by helping them and I work hard with chores and volunteering, but I don’t really enjoy it because it’s boring. I’ve worked in a factory and was the most efficient, fastest worker, but again BORING. 4/8            

it bothers me when people perceive me inaccurately, which seems to be often. most importantly I don’t want them to think I’m good at things I am bad at. eg. people think I’m fast, but I actually can’t sprint and only outrun others through endurance. I love drawing. I always used to imagine I could draw to communicate my emotions and experience of the world and people. I’m not good at doing so irl, but I have become alright at drawing realistically. 5/8       

           I want to be able to communicate much more through art because I’m not good at communicating with words. essays are the worst, because even if I know exactly what I want to communicate, I know it only in ideas, feelings, and concepts. translating them into words and proper sentences is a struggle. sometimes when I talk, all I can say is the logical thing. I am good at pointing out others’ inconsistencies and the easiest things for me to say are those based in logic and fact. 6/8                

growing up, people did not treat me well. the thing I want most is to avoid hurting others as I have been hurt. I would hate to do anything that causes anyone to think they have no value or worth. I talk negatively (about myself) and my logic leads me to negative conclusions, but something in me always believes the best despite what I may say. eg. in high school cross country, I would say I expect to do bad and explain through logic why this was the case, 7/8           

but for no explainable reason my heart thought I would do well, and it was the one that prevailed in the competition. I can never dwell on negativity or uncertainty for long. I have no idea what my future holds (prob some boring office job) but I don’t like to think about what I am dreading, only about the imaginary possibilities that aren’t really going to happen, or about the present and the people I care about most. 8/8            

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Hi anon, you sound like you are probably a high Fi user, and based on what you said probably an ExFP. There’s not much here to distinguish between Ne and Se, and I’m not getting a clear sense of either from anything else (writing, experiences, etc).

The reason I think you’re a high Fi user is in part because you are very people-oriented. Extroverts tend to enjoy being around people, but feelers tend to be the ones who find people the most interesting and who are motivated by that specifically. Based on your description, you seem to improvise far more than plan (an argument against high Si/Ni and therefore Fe) and you are also very concerned with accurately representing yourself and people having a correct understanding of you, which is very consistent with Fi.

While athletics and visual art are often signs of high Se (and in general I’d recommend you check that out first given that it’s more common than high Ne) they’re not necessarily limited to high Se users, which is why I think you’ll need to spend more time figuring that part out.

ExFP, leaning towards ESFP.

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What would the roles of each MBTI type have been when humanity as a species were still largely hunter-gatherers?

To lay down some groundwork for context before I begin:

  • First of all, I suspect that the reason why SJs represent 40% of the population is because Si as a function lends itself to traditional and ‘safe’ behaviors. SJs don’t really want to venture too far outside of their comfort zone; the caution-seeking component of Si would much rather be safe than sorry. This type of built-in aversion to risk would have led to SJs being much more likely to survive long enough to propagate their genes, and pass on their Si tendencies (assuming that personality traits can, at least to some extent, be passed on genetically).

  • Likewise, the same logic that explains why high Si users (SJs) would have been more likely to survive environmental risks can also be used to explain why low Se users (NJs) are four of the rarest types. Se is the function that notices and responds to external sensory stimuli - like, for example, an angry tiger defending her young; and higher-order Se users (SPs) process and react to this input much more quickly than lower-order Se users (NJs) do. My younger brother and one of my best friends are both Se-doms (ESTP and ESFP, respectively), and in the time I can even begin stumbling my way through trying to figure out what’s going on around me, they’ve already managed to both process and respond to whatever it is that’s just happened. In humanity’s early world of survival based on the ability to adapt and respond to threats, it’s not hard to imagine how being cognitively less aware of your environment could put you at a disadvantage when it comes to avoiding danger. I suspect that a huge part of the reason why Ni-doms are so rare comes down to the fact that we just simply aren’t as efficient as other types are when it comes to being aware of life-threatening situations.

  • Contrary to NJs, SPs - who are high Se users - thrive in environments that necessitate a quick response. ‘High risk, high reward’ is the name of the game for Se; because the same adventurous spirit that helps them find new resources while they roam far and wide can also contribute to their downfall in the form of their compunction for diving head-first into novel - yet potentially dangerous - sensory experiences. This trait is helpful during times of scarcity, but it can also make them impulsive, and prone to placing themselves in harm’s way. Personally, I suspect this is the reason why ESTPs are the rarest sensor type - their foolhardy and devil may care attitude towards risk sees them placing themselves in harm’s way more than any other type.

  • I think the large disparity between thinking and feeling functions for men and women (75% of women are feelers, compared to only 45% of men - despite the fact that all other dichotomies (I/E, N/S, and P/J) are relatively even) can be explained by how they’ve adapted differently in response to selective pressures.

    Women have always had a greater incentive for learning and displaying pro-social behavior: getting along with other women (and members of your tribe in general) was imperative to early humans, who used to raise their children communally (a tendency which can still be observed in non-Western cultures even today). Women are also, and always have been, the primary caregivers when it comes to child-rearing - it isn’t hard to figure out why it would’ve been advantageous for them to have a more natural and inborn capacity for emotional intelligence when they essentially have to devote half of their entire existence to interpreting and responding to the needs of another person (especially when that person is a small child who depends upon you entirely for their survival, all while trying to learn how to human). The much greater female requirement for being empathetic, nurturing, and understanding is, I think, why 3 in 4 women are feelers.

    At the same time, if you bothered to take a look at the second chart that I posted above, you may have noticed that the type ratio for men is much more even than the type ratio for women. Yes, some types are more common than others (although I think that can mostly be explained by type-specific strengths and weaknesses), but it’s clearly much more evened out. Personally, I think this phenomenon can be explained by two different things: a) the fact that men (who are generally the “doers” of the human race) probably require a broader skillset in order to venture out in search of resources to bring home for the group, and b) because natural diversity in men likely increases their individual chances of finding a mate, since they won’t be competing with each other over women who all have a preference for the exact same type of men.

  • This is kind of a random and subjective (and mostly unfounded) observation, but based on distribution- and gender-related type statistics, it seems like the most “ideal” type to be (in terms of social and environmental survival) is ISFP. Most of the reason why I think this is because of how evenly balanced the type seems to be among both men and women - ISFPs represent about 7.6% of men, and 9.9% of women.

  • People seem to gravitate towards romantic partners who “complete” them, in the sense of having strengths in the areas where they’re weak. For some reason, though, there seems to be a different pattern here for sensors and iNtuitives: sensors tend to stick to dating within their Kiersey temperament cluster (ex. SJs date other SJs, and SPs date other SPs), whereas iNtuitives seem to cross the aisle between NTs and NFs more often than not. I’m not really sure why this is (outside of a post I wrote about the symbiosis between Ne users (NPs) and Ni users (NJs); here it is, if you want to read it), so it’s hard for me to speculate; but my Se-dom brother (ESTP) and closest female friend (ESFP) joke together all the time about how complementary our skill sets are, despite how dramatically different we are on the outside. I’ve also noticed the same thing when it comes to introversion and extroversion, and (tentatively) enneagram types as well - there seems to be a natural affinity there for being attracted to people who naturally complement our personalities.

  • I could be completely wrong about this (if interacting with other people online has given me the false impression that iNtuitives are more common in this day and age than they’ve been at any other point in human history), but it seems to me like the population (at least in Western countries) is starting to become more evenly proportionate in terms of the balance between sensors and iNtuitives. If this perception is correct, then this phenomenon may just come down to the fact that mankind has NEVER been as peaceful and prosperous as we are at this point in history. Our current quality of life as a species is completely unprecedented - medical, technological, social, and agricultural advances mean that more people are surviving into adulthood than ever before, and the types that would have been less likely to avoid the culling process of natural selection (i.e. iNtuitives in general) are now surviving much more easily in the modern world of comforts and conveniences. If I’m right about this, then the historical and biological tide may be shifting towards evolution favoring iNtuitives over sensors in future generations.

  • Cultural shifts traditional gender roles may also influence the type ratios between men and women.
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FUCK 16personalities. 

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NFs when you don’t like them back:

ENFJs: Spend hours a day stalking your social media accounts. Will cry about it to every single one of their friends, who will see an uptick in the frequency of meaningless inspirational quotes on Facebook and Instagram about finally learning to love themselves. (Everyone finds this hilarious, because they all know how highly the ENFJ thinks of himself already.) Jumps straight into the next relationship, or indulges in casual, meaningless sex with random partners in order to fill the void.

INFJs: Sabotages you socially behind the scenes if they feel slighted by your rejection. Writes flowery, poetic ten-page e-mails to you that will never see the light of day. Is already back with their ex before you’ve even finished saying no because they were keeping them on reserve just in case they got rejected, so they’d have someone to go back to. Pretends to move on, but continues to pine for you in secret. Started following your new girlfriend’s Instagram before you even knew you were dating her. Twenty years from now, you start getting weird hang-up calls on your cell phone. It’s your INFJ ex. She’s still mad.

ENFPs: Oscillate between throwing temper tantrums and pretending not to care. Will say or do something outrageous in order to goad you into reacting to them in some way so they can get your attention. Will explore every method of emotional manipulation they can think of in order to win you over. Disproportionately attracted to anyone who seems like a challenge so that they can ride the high when they finally get what they want. Start out being supremely confident that they’ll be able to charm you into reciprocating their feelings; when they realize that you aren’t falling for it, they will retreat to sulk and feel sorry for themselves.

INFPs: Never got rejected because they didn’t bother telling you how they felt in the first place. Watches you wistfully from afar instead of approaching you so that they can keep the dream alive instead of having to face reality. You don’t even know they exist because they’re so distant and reclusive. Spend hours a day fantasizing about you and your perfect, idealized life together. Somehow knows everything about you, even though you’ve never talked. Is convinced you’re her soulmate despite barely knowing you. Is literally stalking you. Thinks it’s romantic.

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NTs when they lose a debate:

ENTJs: Casually try to play it off like we both don’t know that they just got completely annihilated. Will end the debate by changing the subject, but it’s only because they’re hoping they won’t have to acknowledge their loss. Ask for alternative perspectives, only to ultimately revert back to what they already believed in the first place. Will eventually hang themselves with their own rope if you just let them keep talking long enough.

INTJs: Get angry and prideful, and keep arguing long past the point that they’ve clearly lost in order to save face. Easy bait for trolls. Will start to correct small grammatical errors when their point has been thoroughly discredited. Refuse to adjust their argument in the face of new evidence. Criticizes the reliability of your sources while ignoring the fact that their own sources are cherry-picked to support their point. Pretend not to care, but actually care a lot. Will spend three days straight trying to prove how much they don’t care.

ENTPs: Start trying to twist arguments and make inferences about your conclusions that you never actually made. Move the goalposts incrementally throughout the argument until you somehow find yourself having a completely different debate than the one you started. Would rather die than admit to being wrong. Will pretend not to know what you’re trying to say so they have an excuse to keep arguing. Continue arguing with themselves even though you left the room twenty minutes ago.

INTPs: May admit to potentially being wrong “in theory”, but won’t admit to it in reality, because that would mean having to restructure the entire premise of their argument. Falsely conclude that their argument has come out the winner when this is really just because the only rebuttal they’re willing to accept is one that to be argued from the framework they used that was based on inaccurate suppositions in the first place. Begin to sulk when they’re clearly losing (but convince themselves that they’re not). Resort to using personal anecdotes to prove their point as a final method of desperation. Will unironically call YOU out for using anecdotes, though.

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..You guys, I.. I did it. I finally did it. ;A; At long last, after two and a half years, I somehow managed to get my shit together enough to complete the ENFJ gf meme.

I haven’t made one of these since 2016, so pls be gentle. :’(

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Question:

Can an NTJ's Ni mimic Fe (with startling accuracy), just due to insight into a person combined with logical understanding? I quickly pick up on others' emotions/situations (and even tell others to mind those things), but true to Fi, my morals are subjective.

Answer:

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I’m going to keep this general rather than specific to those functions. It is possible for a combination of other functions, working together, to appear as a different function in terms of behavior. The motivation, however, still comes from different places.

Anything can LOOK like anything, but their motivations for behaving that way will always be different.

Also, here’s a question I answered on Quora about how an INTJ could be good at reading people despite their lack of Fe.

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weirdly specific things the types like to do

ESFJ - organizing their extensive Pinterest boards of all the wedding rings they want their boyfriend to propose with, even though they don’t actually have a boyfriend yet

ISFJ - complaining about having to clean up after everybody all the time (but secretly loving it and doing absolutely nothing to try and change it)

ISTJ - organizing their YouTube playlist of boring documentaries to watch before bed to help them fall asleep (but then staying up all night to watch them because they’re so interesting)

ESTJ - being called Daddy in private while morally crusading against the degeneracy of the DDlg kink in public

ESFP - making AMVs by splicing shots of their favorite anime together with Fall Out Boy and Panic! At The Disco songs and then posting them on YouTube

ISFP - printing out smutty fan fiction written about their favorite fandoms and reading it in class

ESTP - posting Facebook videos of themselves doing parkour on the edge of the roof of a 50 foot tall building

ISTP - putting chips in their sandwich for maximum flavor and efficiency, to the dismay of every girl in the vicinity

ENTJ - tapping out the rhythm of their favorite songs on their desk while they work

INTJ - writing detailed essays analyzing their favorite books and movies before posting them in obscure Reddit and 4chan threads that nobody is ever going to read

ENFJ - forcing their healthy cooking on unsuspecting victims as a gesture of affection

INFJ - writing heartfelt and extremely revealing texts/letters/e-mails to loved ones before banishing it from existence, never to be seen again

ENFP - dyeing their armpit hair blue and daring you to say something about it

INFP - being completely submissive to Daddy in real life while pretending to be totally ready for the Marxist revolution on the internet

ENTP - pretending they don’t know what the person they’re arguing with is actually trying to say just so they have an excuse to keep arguing with them

INTP - bullying minorities in online alt-right forums and chatrooms

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The Types as 90s Songs - Part II

ESTJ: Paula Cole - Where Have All The Cowboys Gone?

ISTJ: Edwin McCain - I’ll Be

ESTP: Chumbawamba - Tubthumping

ISTP: Eminem - Sing for the Moment 

ESFJ: Aqua - Barbie Girl 

ISFJ: Joan Osborne - One of Us 

ESFP: Pink - Get the Party Started 

ISFP: Goo Goo Dolls - Iris 

ENTJ: Mark Morrison - Return of the Mack

INTJ: Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun 

ENTP: System of a Down - Chop Suey!

INTP: Bush - Machinehead 

ENFJ: Tal Bachman - She’s So High 

INFJ: Jewel - You Were Meant For Me 

ENFP: Wish You Were Here - Incubus

INFP: Tori Amos - Precious Things 

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The Types and Protest Signs

goldenspaceoddity:

ESFP:

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ISFP:

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ESFJ:

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ESTP:

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ISTP:

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ESTJ:

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ISTJ:

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ENFP:

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INFP:

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ENFJ:

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ENTP:

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INTP:

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ENTJ:

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INTJ:

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*Canadian INTJ 

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Ni and Ne Synergy

Imagine that Ni is like a pyramid made of blocks, where every new piece you fit in adds to the completion of one of the layers, until that layer is complete and you can progress on to building the next. Ni continues on this way exhaustively, adding on layer after layer, filling it with new blocks that it’s discovered will fit into the pyramid perfectly. This process is not complete until Ni has finally reached the summit, the peak, of the pyramid, and there is only one block remaining at the top. This block is Ni’s conclusion.

The problem is that while the pyramid may appear to be structurally sound on the outside, from within, it is sometimes full of holes. There are missing blocks everywhere. Some of them failed to be delivered on time, and there’s an entire section in the middle that isn’t supported by blocks at all. These structural flaws can happen when Ni makes an assumption with no basis in knowledge or experience, or when it has leaped to a conclusion too quickly without enough evidence to fortify it. If one were to tug on a strategically placed block from its position, the whole structure would come tumbling down.

And so from a certain perspective, the pyramid looks fine. But when you examine it from another angle, look at it from overhead, you can see that the peak is off-center. Ni has drawn the wrong conclusion, because it took known information and made a “best guess” with it, when there wasn’t enough information to draw accurately from in the first place.

Why Ne is so valuable in this context is because it offers more blocks to start off with so that Ni can build a more stable pyramid. It brings data, ideas, and viewpoints to the table that Ni had not yet taken into account, and in offering this additional data for consideration, Ne can help Ni draw a more accurate conclusion. Their pyramid is now perfectly centered.

Some people may be reading this and finding themselves wondering, “Well, where does the synergy come in here, then? It seems pretty one-sided, with Ni benefiting a lot from Ne’s input. So where’s the reciprocity? What does Ne get out of this deal?”

Although Ne brings its raw, scattered, unprocessed creativity to the table, it lacks focus, direction, and discipline. It looks at its expansive pile of blocks and thinks, “OH MY GOD, THERE ARE SO MANY BLOCKS HERE! What am I supposed to do with them all? Do I build a house? Do I build a shrine? Do I build an 80 foot tall statue of a dog sleeping on a bed of sunflowers? SO MANY POSSIBILITIES!”

How Ni helps is that, in return for the gift of Ne’s blocks, it provides a sense of vision and direction for the pure - but unstructured - creativity of Ne. And so by working together, Ni lends its vision, ambition, and efficacy to the collaboratively built new pyramid, while Ne was the one who came up with all the whimsical, creative ideas until Ni decided which one was best, and developed it into an actionable plan.

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Question:

I wish I could hang out with you so you could tell me my accurate mbti type. I still don’t know if I’m infp or infj D:

Answer:

Ahh, this was probably sent to me a super long time ago, but like.. if you’re still interested, feel free to PM me and we can chat a bit on here (or Facebook, or Skype even), and I could give you my impressions! <3 Kneejerk instantaneous impression has me leaning towards INFP, though. 

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