My little brother and I are having a debate and clearly the only way to settle it is to get input from other people. Does oatmeal count as a beverage?
Thanks everyone for the input! The answers have been almost unanimous against oatmeal as a beverage, but I seem to have accidentally sparked the questions of “is oatmeal a soup” and, more generally, “is porridge soup?”
I am confused but delighted and will share my little brother’s thoughts on these new questions as soon as I can
Just got the notification that someone liked this post so here! Resurrecting the debate, and adding one further question: does cereal count as soup?
Okay first of all TJ why are you cutting french onion soup with a knife???? (first and a half of all the dog crammed under my desk and says hi)
second, cereal and oatmeal are totally soup… about the same way salsa is technically a fruit based salad and a bowl of chocolates and coffee candies or a mocha latte are bean salads, or ketchup and chocolate sauces both being smoothies or shakes so i mean, you’re right but don’t dwell to hard on it maybe for sanity sake???
third, i now get to ask my spouses about this and get their inputs and i would just like you to know that a similar question came up at dinner and there were mixed reviews… (on new years eve do we tell the kid “okay see you/we’ll wake you up NEXT YEAR”)
update from after asking husband: Oatmeal as beverage or soup, “not that I know of”
cereal as soup, “possibly…?” with a vague level of interest in what the fuck could have posessed me to ask him these questions.
I have actually never had french onion soup, but I’ve seen both my mom and my grandma (the one who isn’t my mom’s mom) eat french onion soup and use a knife to cut the cheese that’s kind of on top of the soup? French onion soup confuses me. (I say hi back to the dog!)
I agree with your second point but have a follow up question based on my cousin’s rant at grandma’s house one time: is chocolate sauce still a smoothie/shake if the chocolate sauce contains anchovies?
My dad brought up a new potential food category we’ve missed. Is stew different than soup, and if so, is oatmeal more of a stew? And is chicken and dumplings soup or stew? (This started by my dad trying to claim all soup is a beverage, as evidenced by the guy he saw drinking soup through a straw, but you can’t drink chicken and dumplings through a straw)
Oh yeah, if anyone wants to filter out all these “is oatmeal a soup” posts, the tag I’ll be using is #the great oatmeal debate
Oatmeal, when made with milk is a dairy based soup not unlike cream of xxx. So in this case it’s cream if oats soup.
Water based is still soup, it’s just broth based.
Oatmeal is a porridge, because it’s starch based instead of veggie/meat based. Therefore, cereal is also a porridge, albeit a very thin one.
Ok, but consider: All three are soup!
@maximum-marrs I am absolutely going to start calling oatmeal “cream of oats soup”
@pea-gravel does that mean if someone makes a soup with rice in it that is heavy on the rice and light on the meat/veggies that it is technically a porridge? If you make chicken noodle soup with lots of noodles is it porridge with meat in it? If you add fruit to the oatmeal does that make it more or less soup-like?
Absolutely the only thing you can call out now.
My friend sent me this thread because of discourse I started involving olives. I didn’t know discourse like this could be so wholesome! Mine is officially cursed. Well done you!
@tj-crochets Y’know what, I’m going to say yes, because congee is a rice-based porridge that can/does have meat/eggs/whatever in it.
This is a hot take.
It’s not that everything’s soup… instead everything’s porridge?
@maximum-marrs Thanks! I have no idea how this ended up wholesome. I guess people are less strongly opinionated about soup than they are about olives?
Followup question! If liquid-y foods can be categorized as soup or porridge based on level of starch and what they’re made of, where do fruit smoothies fall on this scale? Because I think this means they’re soup. Also, mac and cheese? Soup? Porridge? Not liquid based enough to be either?